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Friday, November 26, 2010

Suing Chinese Companies. "How Long Has This Been Going On?"

Yesterday, I participated in a phone call with a client and another lawyer in my office, Gerry Davis. We were discussing a worldwide software licensing agreement and I had brought in our best "tech" lawyer to assist. The counter-party had already provided a draft agreement to our client which our client had not yet sent to us. Fairly late in the discussion, I asked what law the agreement was calling for and then noted how that is oftentimes not as important as it is often made out to me. As I put it, as far as I know, in every country in the world, if you clearly say you will do something in a contract that is important to the contract and then you don't, you are liable for breach. I then asked what the contract said about where disputes would be resolved, at which point, Gerry said something about how my expertise is in dispute resolution clauses.

I know it makes me weird, but I kinda like that. ?

In a previous post, entitled, "Arbitration In Your China Contract. Adult Supervision Required," I talked a bit about my obsession with dispute resolution clauses:

With sushi restaurants, it's the yellow fin.

With new houses, it's the windows.

With international contracts, it's the dispute resolution provision.

The "it" I am talking about is the one easiest, fastest, most accurate, way to judge whether something is good or not. And the way I judge international contracts is by heading straight to the dispute resolution provision. The well crafted provision is, above all else unambiguous. If it calls for litigation, it says where it will be and what law will apply. And it says who will pay for it and under what circumstances. If it calls for arbitration, it says where it will be, how many arbitrators will be required, how the arbitrators will be chosen, the language of the proceedings, and the law that will apply. And it says who will pay for what.?

The above are minimums.?

I am heartened to see I am not the only blogger obsessed by these provisions. My friend, Santiago Cueto, of International Business Law Advisor, recently did his own post on international dispute resolution clauses, entitled, "7 Ways to Bulletproof Your International Arbitration Agreement."

My "problem" is that I have had to tell far too many companies (mostly American, with a smattering of European) that even though they have a great case based on the facts, the way their dispute resolution provision has been written will mean that pursuing their case will either be too expensive or too unlikely to succeed in actually collecting on any winnings.?

Hence the obsession.?

My firm is always handling international litigation and international arbitration matters. We are one of the few firms that takes such cases on a contingency fee or mixed fee basis, but we probably immediately turn down nine out of ten such cases referred to us and one of the most common reasons for our rejecting a case is because the dispute resolution provision has made actually collecting money too time consuming or difficult. ?

One of the things we love about pursuing litigation in China is the speed at which those cases usually proceed. We have handled (always using locally licensed Chinese counsel, of course) relatively complicated Chinese cases where we have been able to sue in China and get a judgment within three months. This on cases that would take three years in the United States. ?

I very recently discussed the differences between litigation in China and litigation in the United States in a Wall Street Journal article I wrote, entitled, "Chinese Companies Court Disaster" and in much greater depth in an article for Bloomberg Legal, entitled,?Suing Chinese Companies: The New Wave." [subscription required] For the full Bloomberg article, in serialized form, check out the following:

I am always marveling at how quickly litigation moves in China and I am often tout it as the fastest and best (and many times only) solution for obtaining injunctive relief against a Chinese company. Then again, we had one really big case in China where the judge obviously did not want to rule and for years, he just kept telling my client and the opposing party to settle it. ?

A recent China Blawg Post,?How Long Can a Litigation Proceeding Be in China??does a nice job pointing out how foreign company litigation in China can move really quickly, but definitely does not always. ?

Under China Civil Procedure Law, a domestic case is generally tried and completed within six (6) months for the trial of first instance starting from the date of successful filing of the case with the court, and within three (3) months for the trial of second instance (appellate court). However, for a foreign-related case, the Civil Procedure Law simply provides that such cases are not subject to such time limits as applicable to domestic cases without further prescribing how long such proceedings in respect of such foreign-related cases should be. In practice, such provisions are interpreted as that such lawsuits can be an open-ended proceedings.

Indeed. Very frequently, I am approached by international clients complaining that they get trapped in China courts due to prolonged legal proceedings with no idea when it comes to an end. And there are cases in which I represent foreign parties that have lasted much longer than six (6) months even though the case appeared not difficult. This has led to grievances on the part of foreign parties that often find that institution of a lawsuit in China has added salt to their own injuries.

The post then posits the solution in most situations?to be to "choose arbitration for dispute resolution in lieu of litigation in courts." The post then notes, however, that i"t is not that every foreign-related case has been protracted indefinitely. Courts in those big metropolitan cities in China, such as Shanghai, Beijing, may prove to be quiet efficient in some cases."

And that is the point.

The point is that in writing a contract, one must always think ahead in writing its dispute resolution clause and in each case, focus on what will likely be the best solution for the client. There is no one size fits all.?

I gave a speech the other day to the International Association of Outsourcing Professionals meeting on the legal issues involved in outsourcing to an emerging market country. In that speech, I had this to say about choosing the forum for your disputes:

How about putting in your contract that you can sue your Vietnamese vendor in the United States? You’d get your $3 million from them easy if you could sue here, right? Wrong. If you sue here, you might very well get a U.S. judgment for $3 million, but will you ever collect on it? Vietnam, China, Russia, even Japan: none of those countries will just take a U.S. judgment and turn it into a domestic judgment in those countries such that you will be able to enforce it against your vendor there.?

My firm constantly gets calls from American lawyers wanting to retain us to collect on a U.S. judgments they have received against Chinese or Russian companies. The American lawyers have usually charged their clients a pretty fair sum and they think all that is left for them to do is to take that judgment to a Chinese or Russian court. There, they think, they will get their U.S. judgment automatically converted into a Chinese or a Russian judgment and then they will get their money.

But it doesn’t work that way. Your United States judgment pretty much has zero value in either China or Russia, and in most other places in the world as well.

In fact, Chinese and Russian companies love it when you put a United States litigation requirement in your contract with them because they know that their own courts won’t enforce against them whatever judgment you may get. And even if you later realize that suing in the United States is not the way to go and you choose to sue the Chinese or Russian company in its home country, the court there will almost certainly toss your case out for being in the wrong jurisdiction because you signed a contract agreeing to sue in the United States.

So you have to be very careful not to write a contract that essentially blocks you from ever suing on it. And of course, on the flip side, if you put the United States in your contract as the jurisdiction for disputes, the foreign company can easily sue you right here.

Arbitration is oftentimes your best option and should in many cases go into your contract. Almost every country is a signatory to the New York Convention on Arbitration Awards, which means it will enforce U.S. and other foreign arbitration awards.

But arbitration has its shortcomings and sometimes you are better off putting a foreign court as your venue for resolving disputes. For example, if your biggest fear is your outsourcing company running off with your IP or your trade secrets, the fastest and best way to stop that is usually through the courts in the country in which your outsourcing company is based. Choosing the venue oftentimes comes down to figuring out the worst thing that could happen to you and then choosing the best venue for dealing with that.

You can read that entire speech here.

So what then is the answer as to what your contract with a Chinese company should be saying regarding where to pursue disputes? Chinese courts? The courts in your own country? Arbitration?

It depends....

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Tuesday, November 2, 2010

Going To China The Coke Way.

Spent today at a really nicely put together China business conference in Atlanta put on by the Atlanta chapter of the National Association of Chinese Americans. I particularly liked the format which consisted mostly of panels where each speaker talked for about ten minutes, followed by Q & A. I spoke on the legal issues facing American companies going to China and will be doing a post on that.

There were truly many excellent speakers and I took hardly any notes other than to copy the following list of "Lessons Learned" as put forth by Clyde Tuggle, a senior vice-president at Coca Cola. Tuggle describe the list of the lessons Coke has learned from going into China, but he also said these same lessons hold true for everywhere else Coke has gone as well -- and since Coke is in every country other than North Korea, Myanmar and Cuba, that's a lot of countries.

I really liked the list both because I buy into it and because of its extreme simplicity.

Here goes:

  1. Take a long view of the market.?
  2. Find good local partners.
  3. Relationships matter; develop them.
  4. Quickly localize your business.
  5. Understand, embrace and embed into the local culture.
  6. Maintain the highest international standards.
  7. Strengthen your social license daily.

Good. And simple.

What do you think?

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Monday, November 1, 2010

Actual, Non-Halloween Related Warning: 'Charlie Sheen Is Going To Die This Week'

Two-and-a-half-men_500.jpgWe’ve been having fun with Halloween today here at the Movieline Terrordrome, but here’s some actually scary news for you: Charlie Sheen has moved on from his hookers-and-blow debacle from last week to a NEW hookers-and-blow debacle. But things are so bad that a long-time friend of Sheen’s has declared “Charlie Sheen is going to die this week.”

Radar is reporting that, after being hospitalized and undergoing psychiatric evaluation last week in New York, Charlie Sheen has been entertaining a steady stream of prostitutes and hoovering up massive amounts of cocaine non-stop. Says one of Radar’s sources, “It’s been a non-stop party of drugs and hookers since Charlie got home. He is completely out of control. No one can get through to him.”

Whether Sheen succumbs to the fatal prediction made by his close friend is anyone’s guess, but from the sounds of it, he certainly is doing his darndest to make it come true.

And while the lion’s share of the blame for Sheen’s behavior clearly and obviously rests on his coked-out shoulders, I think we shouldn’t forget that CBS bears at least partial blame in this sad mess. CBS’ willingness to look the other way so long as their toot-happy star was still raking in the bucks for them — and even give him a raise even after being charged with assault — is deplorable and only worsened the matter. Their enabling helped paper over any problems Sheen might have been forced to confront if he was removed from his sitcom.

Again, is this largely Sheen’s own responsibility? Of course. Would being fired or reprimanded by CBS have prevented these latest episodes? Maybe yes, perhaps not. But CBS turning a blind eye has certainly been a detriment to Sheen and his family.

· EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Sheen On NEW Rampage With Hookers & Cocaine [Radar]

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Monday, October 25, 2010

Stopping Down a China REP Office without going to jail.

The absolute strangely had just arrived. I was about to write a blog about what it takes to close a business in China, but I wanted to read my emails first. In my emails was the following email, I have not changed one bit:

I was just browsing your Chinalawblog inestimable.Je source wish I found this 5 years ago!

I have a slight puzzle that I will respect your opinion on.

We are a UK based LLP with an RO in China (under the name of my girlfriend who is Chinese). ?Unfortunately, due to the recent economic crisis, we have no choice but to liquidate the UK society.

Naturally, we are choosing not to renew our contract Office but were asked to pay some fees: fees for service (as the old classic), annual tax audit and tax on rent.

What is my position on these payments if the British company ceases to exist?My girlfriend told a lawyer who told him that she will be responsible for these payments as the RO in his name.

Any advice is appreciated.

Please feel free to show this on the blog.

China REP Office closure is not terribly difficult (it is easier than the closure of a WFOE), but it should be treated properly and a failure to do so can lead to all sorts of questions for the host society and the person acting as representative appointed head, including the prison.

The first thing we typically when a REP Office closure is advise the Office of local taxes, which then performs a check closing on Bureau.Cette audit will reveal any late fees or other issues that require resolution before the dissolution of the REP Office may is produire.Le local tax office will usually want to see, at a minimum, all income Rep Office since its inception, all tax and any tax certificates of registration it exhibits will also require that you keep a local accountant to audit in turn must be approved by the local tax office to conduct tax audit.

The company is responsible for all passive remaining (taxes or otherwise) the Rep.Dans Office all cases we have handled for our customers, the Home Office has finally paid all the debts of the Rep.à Office a few occasions, we were contacted by persons detained at police office Rep unpaid debt stations, but we have never engaged in this kind of situation.Je say that because we never research if the police were really the right to take someone for a REP Office unpaid debts, but I think that the important point here is that they are doing, and unless you want to hire lawyers to recite the right chapter and verse to try to get their fate, the best thing to do is usually just to pay.

Yet again, because my company works only with companies closed their Rep Office in accordance with the law, I would like to hear from others on what can really happen when the law is not suivie.Histoires please!

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